AMP RJ45 vs WE/SS (Regular) RJ45 Plugs

We’ve all heard that they’re different (somehow?) I thought this was going to be straight forward, turns out I was wrong.

Before we get into the details, we need to define what exactly an “AMP” plug is. In the first instance an AMP connector is made not by AMP, but CommScope. The AMP company was dissolved many years ago and its products have gone through various rounds of divestment and acquisition. Other brands this type of connector has been sold under (historically) are “Tyco” and “TE Connectivity”.

Non-AMP plugs are generally referred to as Stewart Stamping (SS) or Western Electric (WE) Style.

The second thing to consider is that eBay is awash with counterfeit products described as AMP plugs, but are not the products of any of the aforementioned suppliers, nor are they even physically similar to the genuine articles. Most of these are low quality SS/WE style plugs, and should not be used with AMP tools.

Suspiciously cheap AMP connectors for sale on eBay. Crystal? I generally prefer plastic. These particular ones aren’t similar to any CommScope plugs and would be destroyed if used in an AMP style tool.
A bag of 100 genuine AMP style plugs – CommScope branding. These connectors are made exclusively in the USA and should not be coming from China.

There are two distinct varieties of “AMP” (ish) connector.

  • Traditional or “Line” style (as their documentation refers to them)
  • “High Performance” style
Left: “Line” style connector (branded CommScope). Right: “High Performance” style connector (AMP branding). Which ever variety you are dealing with, if it doesn’t have the laser etched logo under the tab, and the two indents at the base of the tab, it’s counterfeit.
Left: “Line” style connector. Right: “High Performance” style connector. The high performance style is open inside, allowing the cable to be inserted all the way up to the contacts. More about that at the end of the article.

Example part numbers:

  • 6-557315-3 (Line style, round, 8P8C)
  • 6-569278-2 (High performance style, round, 8P8C)

Since you are here because of differences in tooling, let’s get straight into that. It turns out that these two require different tools:

  • 2-231652-1 (Black dot die) – Crimps “Line” style plugs
  • 3-231652-0 (White dot die) – Crimps “High performance” style plugs
AMP 3-231652-0 (1-853400-0 Die, white dot)
Left: AMP “black dot” die, Right: AMP “white dot” die

Which one is the fabled “AMP” connector? Both varieties are quite different to regular SS/WE plugs, however from a tooling perspective, the “black dot” tool for “Line” style plugs is significantly different. It is this type which other manufacturers sell tools labelled as “AMP” style.

For comparison with SS/WE I’ll be using the Stewart 2990003-01 tool (2990006-01 Die, yellow dot).

Stewart 2990003-01 (2990006-01 Die, yellow dot)
Left: AMP “black dot” die, Right: Stewart “yellow dot” die

When we look at the “black dot” die next to the one from the Stewart tool, the difference is clear. There is a third punch-down in the centre which crimps part of the plug onto the stripped wire, a feature that no other type of plug has. Because of this, you cannot use this tool to crimp most SS/WE plugs.

6-557315-3 plug showing the extra “middle” crimp – specific to this type of connector

As for the “white dot” tool and associated “high performance” plugs, they’re not exactly the same as SS/WE plugs and associated tools but I’ve found that they are more-or-less interchangeable – I certainly could not see and problems with mixing them.

Left: AMP “white dot” Die, Right: Stewart Die

Since we’ve got all of this here – let’s put a clearly non AMP plug into the “black dot” die and see what kind of mess we end up with…

Non AMP plug crimped in “black dot” die

Not a great result, and unlikely to work very well.

But wait! Some non-AMP plugs are actually sort-of compatible with the “black dot” tool

A non-AMP plug, which has space for the wire punch-down

I would’t be making a habit of this. As we can see the wire has been damaged by plastic being squashed by the middle punch-down. Not recommended!

The “high performance” feature

If you care enough to read on…

Left: AMP High Performance plug. Right: Standard “Stewart” style plug

On the left is an example of one, and on the right we’ve got the bog standard alternative. Please excuse the rubbish bit of wire I’ve used here.

In the case of the “high performance” plug the cable is butted right up against the terminals, meaning that there is only a minuscule amount un-twisted cable, whereas the plug on the right has quite a lot.

When we’re running long distances or at 10GbE this matters, but not in any other case.

In summary…

Some (line type) 8P8C AMP plugs crimp onto the cable at 3 points, whereas the rest crimp at 2 points.

I have only seen one other connector type which crimps at 3 points (also originally an AMP specific type – now CommScope) – a special variety of 6 position “long” modular plug which has the lengthwise dimensions of an 8 position plug.

853400-7 “violet dot” die from a 2-231652-7 tool with shielded and unshielded 6 position “long” plugs

These are normally used where a shielded 6 position type is required. Even without this requirement – if you are using 6 position plugs regularly these things are a heck of an improvement over the standard type. They fit standard 6 position sockets, crimp very easily onto round cable, and the longer dimensions and tab make them a lot easier to connect/disconnect.

4 thoughts on “AMP RJ45 vs WE/SS (Regular) RJ45 Plugs

  1. My god, I think I’ve found my spiritual home. Stumbled across this site via Google and I have a lot of reading to do. I’ve been trying to explain to people (mainly network managers & technicians) for years about the differences between AMP/Commscope/TE Connectivity plugs and Stewart and other generic brands. I was going to try and explain the differences in a blog post, but you have done a much better job than I would have been able to!
    Thanks for a great article, I am now going to have a read of your connectors and crimp tools article. I don’t know why, but having the correct high quality tools and knowing how to use them properly is extremely satisfying, especially when you end up making a cable assembly that is as good as a factory one.

    1. > especially when you end up making a cable assembly that is as good as a factory one.

      About 9/10th’s of the reason why I splash out on these tools 😉

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